How do you prove #log_7 10 > log_11 13# ?

3 Answers
Jun 15, 2017

Please see below.

Explanation:

Let us convert both of them to common base #10#, then

#log_7 10=log10/log7=1/0.8451=1.1833#

and #log_11 13=log13/log11=1.1139/1.0414=1.0696#

Hence #log_7 10 > log_11 13#

Note; When we use base as #10#, we do not mention base.

Jun 15, 2017

See below.

Explanation:

Considering

#{(y_1=log_7 10),(y_2=log_11 13):} rArr {(7^(y_1)=10),(11^(y_2)=13):}#

with #y_1 > 1# and #y_2 > 1# because #7 < 10# and #11 < 13# respectively.

and

#11^(y_2)/7^(y_1) = 13/10 rArr (11/7)^(y_1) 11^(y_2-y_1) = 13/10#

or

#(((11/7)^(y_1))/(13/10))11^(y_2) = 11^(y_1)#

Now as we can easily verify

#11/7 > 13/10# and if #y_1 > 1# we have

#(((11/7)^(y_1))/(13/10)) = lambda > 1#

Now if

#lambda 11^(y_2) = 11^(y_1)# with #lambda > 1# as a consequence we have

#11^(y_2) < 11^(y_1) rArr y_1 > y_2#

or

#log_7 10 > log_11 13#

Jun 15, 2017

A solution using elementary methods...

Explanation:

This is a little lengthy, but let's use some elementary methods which do not need a calculator:

First let's find the first few powers of #13#:

#13^1 = 13#

#13^2 = 169#

#13^3 = 2197#

#13^4 = 28561#

#13^5 = 371293 < 10^6#

Taking logs of this last inequality, we find:

#5 log(13) < 6#

and hence:

#log(13) < 6/5#

We will use this later.

Note that:

#10 log(2) = log(2^10) = log(1024) > log(10^3) = 3#

Hence:

#log(2) > 0.3#

Also:

#2 log(7) + log(2) = log(2*7^2) = log(98) < log(10^2) = 2#

Hence:

#log(7) < 1/2(2-log(2)) < 1/2(2-0.3) = 0.85#

Also:

#log(13)+1 = log(13)+log(10) = log(130) > log(128) = log(2^7) = 7 log(2) > 7*0.3 = 2.1#

So:

#log(13) > 1.1#

Then:

#3 log(11) = log(11^3) = log(1331) > log(1300) = log(13)+log(10^2) = 2+log(13) > 2+1.1 = 3.1#

So:

#log(11) > 3.1/3#

So:

#log(11)/log(7) > 3.1/3*1/0.85 = 62/51 > 6/5 > log(13)#

Hence:

#log(10)/log(7) = 1/log(7) > log(13)/log(11)#

Using the change of base formula for logarithms, that is:

#log_7 10 > log_11 13#